Teresa Jeffs hearing transcripts

by Kurt Schulzke on September 6, 2008

On the theory that scores of pages of raw data are better than volumes of commentary, I have posted here transcripts of hearings in San Angelo, Texas involving Teresa Jeffs’ attorney ad litem, Natalie Malonis. One is for Teresa Jeffs’ May 21 “60-day” hearing. The other is the June 24, 2008 hearing on the Willie Jessop Temporary Restraining Order.

I acquired these transcripts within the past 24 hours and have not read them. Hence, I don’t know yet what they contain that may be of interest to different people. Once I have read them, I may add my commentary to that of others.

Sep 7 update: In addition, here is the unsealed portion of the May 30, 2008 hearing in which the issue of TJ’s possible motherhood is briefly discussed.

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rikitikitavi1 September 10, 2008 at 11:02 am

Pliggy, Becky was seen at the Coliseum, running around telling the women she was there to “free” them.

Kurt Schulzke September 10, 2008 at 1:27 pm

Interested –

Comments and readership don’t necessarily go together. Politics on the blog generates plenty of readership, not as much commentary.

K

kbp September 10, 2008 at 2:03 pm

Kurt,

I read Interested’s comment as a compliment to YOU for all you post on the YFZ mess. :)

Joey September 10, 2008 at 2:24 pm

riki, maybe Becky was the one coaching Swinton on what to say during her ongoing calls to the shelters. They should depose her at the evidence hearing coming up.

rikitikitavi1 September 10, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Well, Rozita did make calls to a Washington State shelter or abuse hotline (need to read that affidavit again) & gave the address of an apartment in Everett, which is just north of Seattle. One begins to wonder what Becky Musser’s address is?

SKK September 10, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Why is Becky considered not credible?

Thomas Forguson September 10, 2008 at 10:33 pm

SKK: Its not that she is not credible. Some of us are not as gullible as you are. During The few days of the raid, some one may have been feeding information to the unarrested Rozita Swinton.

SKK September 10, 2008 at 11:03 pm

Someone said she was not credible ..just wanted to know why. I have no idea what information she provided and whether it was right or wrong. I just thought if someone says her info is not reliable they’d have a reason for saying so.

Pliggy September 11, 2008 at 12:15 am

SKK,
In order for me to PROVE she is not credible to you I have to take into consideration the fact that YOU are a lawyer, and an adversarial lawyer to me. Thus my burden of proof must be qualified by your judgement according to some arbitrary statute.

Becky is not credible only to anyone with COMMON SENSE.

Pliggy September 11, 2008 at 1:22 am

I enjoyed telling the back story of Becky and Ben NOT AT ALL.
They each did a lot of good and I wish the very best for them in the life they choose. The problem is the life she is choosing is to be the enemy of her own mother and the FLDS people.

I understand only a sliver how Melinda Fischer feels it is no fun to relate someone elses sins. But just like Dan Fischer, Becky Musser became a sworn enemy of Warren Jeffs and lied about him on the witness stand. Her own Mother, and two of her sisters were defense witnesses, in the trial she was a star prosecution witness.

Rebecca Wall Musser is NOT a reliable informant about the ranch besides that. She left the church in 2003 and the ranch was started in 2004. But I’ll bet her book is in the works, it will be a doozie I am sure.

kbp September 11, 2008 at 8:39 am

SKK

The only reason Becky is a topic of discussion is because she was an informant for Sheriff Doran.

If you wonder why “[s]omeone said she was not credible”, read all that that was attributed to Doran’s “informant” in the affidavits.

If she was the “informant”, as the documents say she was, she was NOT credible.

SKK September 12, 2008 at 6:31 am

kbp – what information did she give. I have no idea who this person is or what agenda is being attributed to her.

smile December 30, 2008 at 7:48 pm

I have a question for Abby. Suppose you have a neighbor, or even a relative that has a problem with you. They don’t like you or what you do. They happen to have a lot of money, and they start spreading lies about you, quietly. You don’t even know what’s going on. Pretty soon, the lies they tell are believed by all the people around you because of the strong influence of your enemy, and they decide to make laws against you, so you’ll have to move away. Let’s say they make laws against athiesm. Athiesm is a terrible thing. Everyone knows that. So now it’s illegal to be an athiest. Are you going to suddenly start practicing religion, because the way you live is now against the law? I personally believe that athiesm is half the world’s problems. So do thousands of others. We are going to force you to change the way you live, because we think it is wrong.
You seem to feel like the worst thing about FLDS is that what they are doing is ILLEGAL, yet the laws that make their lifestyle illegal are unconstitutional. So they are ignoring illegal laws and should all be thrown in jail, right?
If what Texas is doing is allowed to stand, no one anywhere is safe anymore. Not even you, Abby

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