Michael Reagan whines to Governor Perry over losing FLDS kids

The letter is signed showing Michael Reagan’s email as MichaelReagan @ Arrow.org.

The Arrow dot org is also known as the “Arrow Project” in various links at the DFPS web pages.

The $100k vendors list shows 2 Arrow entities, providing child placement and adoption, on page 23.

THE ARROW PROJECT 200411998 DFPS Child Placing Agency

THE ARROW PROJECT 23367153 DFPS Adoption

(I assume the digits are vendor ID numbers, as some have too many digits to be amounts!)

I am so not surprised that someone who constantly whines about people on welfare would have his own hand in public kitty. I guess it’s different when the taxpayers’ money is going in your own pocket.

What, no critique of my song?

Kurt,

This is evidence of what?

That Arrow is concerned over the welfare of the children?

All that the letter says is that they believe that the situation should be looked at, with a view of restoring public confidence in DFPS/CPS… There is nothing in the letter about adopting out FLDS children. The so-called ‘whining’ appears to be merely laying out their background, as there is nothing in the letter that complains about the money spent, etc.

The original e-mail was allegedly from a volunteer, and I have no doubt that one of the many hard-shell baptist religious nuts sent it - but it does not reflect the view of CPS, nor, for that matter of Arrow. I’m sure that there are many in Texas (we have more than our share of religious nuts) that would have liked to adopt out the FLDS children, but that does not transfer their wishes and desires to a government agency. It has about as much credibility as the rantings of Medvecky.

I thought that you would be more concerned with real evidence, instead of spin and innuendo.

I would suggest that instead of arguing with career trolls, one just go out and find “evidence” to refute their (genuninely) ignorant claims and counter-claims.

It’s hard to know what qualifies as “evidence” these days, but might this suffice?

Texas estimates cost of caring for polygamist sect’s children at $21M

11:17 PM CDT on Monday, May 19, 2008
By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News
rtgarrett@dallasnews.com

AUSTIN – It will cost taxpayers $21 million to care for a polygamist sect’s children over the next year, the Health and Human Services Commission estimated Monday.

Foster-care payments for more than 450 youngsters removed because of possible child abuse at the group’s Eldorado ranch will cost nearly $1 million a month, commission spokeswoman Stephanie Goodman said.

Virtually all of the sect children are deemed to need a “basic” level of service, which at $39 a day is the least costly of Texas’ four levels of paid foster care. Nearly doubling the monthly cost, however, is the fact that many – a precise number was not available – are staying in emergency shelters. The state pays shelters $106 a day.

Ms. Goodman said other monthly costs will include $325,500 in health care, provided under the state-federal Medicaid program for the poor; and $425,000 for an additional 70 protective services workers – as soon as they’re hired.

CPS benefits by having something to do, it keeps them in business. That’s how.

foster care payments are paid to the foster parents, not CPS. how is CPS benefitting again? and whose claims are ignorant?

You really are a career troll aren’t you. The evidence wasn’t posted to support that notion, but that CPS intended to keep those kids for atleast a year, most definitely while they adopted them out.

http://www.uta.edu

TBM
“This is evidence of what?

What does Reagn tell us?
“…DFPS approached us with the request that we prepare to provide long-term care for up to 100 of these children.”

That confirms Arrow was provided information that clearly indicated what the DFPS planned.

“In addition to preparing the facility, we engaged in the process of recruiting, screening, hiring, and training 75 additional staff.”

Looks like the ‘inside connections’ was sharing information the DFPS plan was.

“our extensive preparation in close cooperation with DFPS to care for them”

Looks like someone here had an “EXTENSIVE” amount of knowledge on what that plan was.

“We have… suggestions… to restore public confidence in DFPS’s decision making ability and organizational competence.”

Looks like a Team Player here.

“In order to restore public confidence in OUR system”

Yes, certainly is a Team Player!

DFPS was spending MILLIONS, based on the knowledge that those ‘brainwashed’ children of the ranch would be PERMANENT fixtures in their system, all because of the unanticipated discovery of those terrible “beliefs” Angie Voss saw evidence of (lol).

What does the Arrow Project do?

THE ARROW PROJECT
Child Placing Agency

THE ARROW PROJECT
Adoption

kbp,

That is tripe, and you know it. Had CPS taken 100 kids to Arrow without letting them know how many to expect, you would be screaming that they were unprepared.

So far I have seen no evidence of collusion or any attempt to adopt the children out (other than a non-connected loons’ e-mail).

kbp { 08.28.08 at 10:29 am } Look!!

CC knows how to link after all.

Maybe sourcing will not be a problem on those lazy claims as “fact” in future comments.
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I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. I’m not going to.

“The one year period is pretty standard because of 263.401 of the Texas Family Code.”

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On so little evidence, can lose kids for a year? Sends shivers down my spine.

TBM

What part of

…long-term care

to be provided at an

…adoption / placement agency

tells you it was not to be

PERMANENT?

I suspect you’ve been reading too many of CC’s comments and it’s rubbing off on you.

Texasbluesman no matter how outrageous the conduct of the authorities, you are always there to condone their conduct. Arrow is described as a foster-care to adoption agency. In plain English, it is their purpose to prepare children for adoption. The author of this memo described herself as being busy on April 23rd which is the approximate time that Judge Walther ordered the children into foster care.

Again, there is no evidence that CPS was planning to terminate parental rights and place these children for adoption.

Yah, right, TBM. That’s why CPS instructed workers at the foster homes to “not give (the children) false hope” of returning home or seeing their parents or siblings again.

Arrow Team is a part of the DFPS Team.
Part II

Arrow Team
Part IV (sorry, they deleted that page)

All these bigamy charges are laughable and the last refuge of the bigots and haters from other religions who are trying to destroy the FLDS by imposing their religiously based morality, disguised as secular laws, on people who don’t believe as they do.

Bigamy laws weren’t intended to criminallycharge people who willingly enter into plural relationships (whether called “marriage” or not) and who aren’t defrauding partners or anyone else.

In the 21st Century, such bigamy charges are like the old charges against “cohabitating,” and “homosexual relationships.”

At some point, a higher court is going to laugh these bigamy laws, that are so broad that they’re being used to bludgeon the FLDS people, back into the Dark Ages where they belong.

Narrowly crafted and proper bigamy laws, designed to prevent the act of a man or woman marrying more than one person, without letting anyone know about a pre-existing and current marriage, in order to defraud the spouse(s) or others, are appropriate, but, again, that’s not what is going on with the FLDS.

What the FLDS folks are doing is knowingly entering into relationships because they want to do so and because they believe that’s what God wants them to do.

There’s a big difference between criminal bigamy and plural marriages, and if the law doesn’t make that distinction yet, it eventually will. Count on it.

My guess is that Texas has shot itself in the foot on these bigamy charges, because I think there’s a high probability that higher courts are going to throw out these bigamy statutes–as now written–as being unconsitutional. And, if they don’t do it in the short term, they will in the long term.

Bob,

I do not disagree, but until a man and woman of legal age to marry face these bigamy charges, the point you make is of no help.

All the post Lawrence opinion cases brought out, most by TBM, are minors.

Until a law that many anticipate to be unconstitutional is used to convict someone, whether or not it would withstand that test will never be answered.

In summary, there are no constitutional violations using the laws, YET.

Talk about trading in cattle futures! CPS is a human meat market.

I was intrigued by the statement that “virtually all of the sect children are deemed to need a “basic” level of service, which at $39 a day is the least costly of Texas’ four levels of paid foster care.” Why basic service? Because CPS KNEW these kids were under minimal risk of having been abused. That statement is a tacit admission that they knew full well these kids would not need major medical, psychological or dental services, and that they had not been neglected. Paid foster care covers therapists and a multitude of other services intended for children who have been physically or emotionally abused. Texas CPS knew full well the only abuse these children would have experienced was what CPS inflicted on them — by ripping them out of good homes. This single statement speaks volumes about the motives for removal.

The state CPS agencies, nationwide, do in fact get federal financial incentives to take children from their families. There is no incentive to actually place them for adoption, just to take them.

The more time the child spends in the system, as anyone who wants to see can, with the documents provided above — the more CPS gets in federal funds. Which encourages them to place children and then remove them. As we have seen in the FLDS tragedy, any excuse seems to suffice, even those that are falsified. There is no reward to CPS for permanent placements, so many of those children would end up placed and then “recycled.”

Anyone who does not understand the intent was to place these 100 children for adoption, given the institution’s purpose where those children were placed, is incapable of reading a common stop-sign.

Merrianne has written a letter to her mother. And note, her grammar & spelling (& possibly handwriting) are better than some CPS apologists who like to say the FLDS don’t educate their children.

http://www.truthwillprevail.org/index.php?parentid=1&index=126

Riki, I noticed that, too. This young lady writes beautifully and lovingly. I wish she could be returned home to her mother - they obviously have a very loving relationship. I guess we should be thankful to CPS - they have strengthened this bond between mother and daughter far more than any other thing could. If you ever want to unite warring factions - introduce a common enemy. CPS and Texas has done exactly that. Not that Barbara and Merrianne were warring, but I expect that CPS will have an even harder time ‘breaking’ this young woman.

God bless and love her. She’s a sweetheart. She and Betty (Carolyn’s daughter) are sure similar in looks. Both lovely young women.

TBM, if our society were still as prudish & Victorian as it was in the late 19th Century, you might have a leg to stand on with all your ranting about polygamy being a felony. However, our standards are a lot less lax now, what with people living together without being married & having children, & married people having affairs & getting divorced. And it’s a bit much for us to point the finger at the FLDS for “sexually abusing” children when we sexualize our own girls from a very young age. Take a look sometime at the ads for girls’ clothing, or what’s offered for sale in Target & Walmart. Also, look at the almost-naked photo spread Miley Cyrus did back in April in Vanity Fair & the suggestive poses she made, especially the one with her father—all done so she can start being taken “seriously” as an adult artist at the age of 15! She’s beautiful & talented–why the need to take off her clothes to be considered an adult? Why hasn’t CPS sent the tank to the Cyrus household to round up Miley? We live in a glass house, we have no business throwing stones.

TBM: So, tell us what your religion is, since you weigh in so much about these folks whose religion is intimately tied in to this whole matter and can’t be separated. Don’t throw rocks and hide your hands. Shine some light on yourself.

I’ll do the same. I was born and raised a Catholic, and I’ve never converted to any other religion.

Also, citing what previous courts have done has little meaning. The times they are a changing. Courts once upheld slavery and they kept doing it until they stopped doing it. You fail to persuade with such arguments.

Furthermore, it’s not just the FLDS and similar home grown U.S. religious groups who practice polygamy. Plural wives are common in Islam, and as more and more Muslims come to the U.S. (which will increase when we leave Iraq and give sanctuary to our bought friends) and there will be more and more cases on this subject coming forward.

Banning plural wives is a form of bigotry that is soon going to fall.

From the report on the Training Session CJ provided to potential foster parent/facilities

Mark Tennant, head of Arrow Child and Family Ministries, a foster care agency hoping to take in 75 of the Eldorado kids on a long-term basis, made the announcement during the training session in Spring. A local pastor offered a prayer. And the training ended early.

Scott Lundy, a licensed child care administrator with Arrow, said his staff members, who volunteered in the first days after the raid, struggled to take everything from contempt to racism from the sect’s children.

How could Lundy’s staff have such a radically different experience with the kids than the MH workers had, unless they treated them as badly as CPS did? That’s a red flag for me.

From TDFPS
http://www.dfps.state.tx.us/About/News/features/2007/2007-06-25_Children_in_news.asp

When You Hear About Children in the News
Many caring adults are motivated to become the foster or adoptive parents of the children they see featured in the news. However, the process for these children is to immediately place them with existing, certified foster parents while their cases are investigated…..
In Texas, more than 60 percent of foster parents adopt the children in their care once the children become legally available for adoption. Therefore, there is a chance that foster parents will adopt some of the children you see in the news….

If the foster family does not wish to adopt them, Child Protective Services will search for other adoptive families and the children may be listed in the Texas Adoption Resource Exchange (TARE). This photo listing makes it possible for any approved adoptive family in the U.S. to submit a form expressing their interest in the children.
TARE
http://www.dfps.state.tx.us/adoption_and_foster_care/

As I said, anyone who can’t see this for what it is, religious persecution under cover of “protecting” children, is either willfully blind or illiterate.
Let me know when and where you are on the road, TBM. You must be running lots of stops.

April, then why does his website link directly to this: http://www.arrow.org/momentum/
(on the right hand side, where it says “Michael Reagan Center”)

BTW, whoever designed the page misspelled “abused” child. Must have been FLDS because we know they don’t educate their children. /sarcasm off

Bob,

I’m a Deist. It has not been secret; I’ve posted the info on other boards. Like Jefferson, I believe that a person can believe anything that they want to, but they cannot act on those beliefs that are prohibited by a general and neutral law, like the Bigamy statute in Texas. The FLDS have no right, religious or otherwise, to violate those laws. If you can provide a citation that would support their right to commit felonies, please post it – but you won’t, because it doesn’t exist.

You, like many of the defenders of these child abusers, attack my motivations. I have noticed that those that cannot argue for a point on a logical basis often resort to these personal attacks, usually by ascribing their own motivations to those that oppose them.

I don’t hate the FLDS, but I’m not blind. By their own records, approximately 1/3 of the underage girls in the FLDS have been illegally married. By the same token, in 2006, less than 1/2 of one percent of Texas girls have been married, and only 44 under the age of 16 (by court order), none of whom were married to someone over 30, much less a 51-year old man.

The FLDS have racist beliefs, and having personally seen the results of racism and the reservations that came from racism against my and other tribes, I don’t particularly care for it. Our people believe that all people should be judged by their actions, not their skin color.

The FLDS have continually lied. They lied following the 1944 raids, with those convicted of bigamy giving their word not to continue to practice illegal marriages. Guess what – they continued to violate the law. They did the same after the 1953 Short Creek raid. They said that underage marriage was “relatively” limited – but their own statistics belie that, showing that the underage marriages are not only common, but extensive.

In short, the FLDS have made a knowledgeable decision to violate the law. Texas will hold them accountable for that decision.

TBM you are a useful idiot. Keep on blogging. We need someone to argue with. FLDS had not lied. It is CPS that has continually lied. Remember CPS claimed that 31 of 53 girls had been or were pregnant. 25 of these claimed to be adults. Those who said they were adults were adults. FLDS was proven to be honest. If there are so many underage marriages, why only 5 indictments for underage marriages. At the shelter, CPS claimed that their “guests” were glad to be there. They wernt. CPS said their “guests” were well-cared for. CPS own emails showed they wee aware that this wasnt true. CPS claimed their “guests” didnt want to talk to the media. While still in captivity, the women talked to the media over cell phones. Yet you still blindly trust the word of the CPS. Figures dont lie. Liars do figure. Except for the allegations against Warren Jeffs, none of the charges of underage marriages were illegal before the FLDS moved to Texas. If you werent concerned about girls as young as 14 getting married before ths FLDS arrived, you need to cease your indignation. Rozita Swinton made a conscious decision to break the law. That this began with a hoax does matter is proved by the fact that Rozita has yet to be arrested. Finally there is the awkward fact that none of the “victims” see themselves as “victims”.

Remember CPS claimed that 31 of 53 girls had been or were pregnant. 25 of these claimed to be adults.

He should remember; back in April, he was repeating those claims as proven fact.

Riki,

Thanks! So many things having gone on in this mess it is becoming more difficult to keep track of them. I wish there was a timeline of events with links available to refresh one’s memory on the details!

Interesting comment LAnon. Food for thought, when one is considering more than just the laws involved.

Thomas,

The number of times that the FLDS has been caught lying is unquestionable. The fact that you don’t believe that is merely proof of your bias.

Bob,

You are so far off the mark it is not even funny. I care about the law and the children. Contempt for the law, and the willing disobedience of it without consequences leads to anarchy, and thereby to the decline of civilization. I don’t particularly like racism, but it has never been the primary factor in my feelings on this matter.

You might want to re-read what I have said. The FLDS have the right to believe anything that they want, but they don’t have the right to act on those beliefs where they are prohibited by law. That is not a new concept, it goes back to Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers. It is the principle of law that SCOTUS has repeatedly used on Free Exercise Clause cases.

Your comments on Native Americans are foolish. There was no genocidal “love” as you phrase it, just genocide. You speak of ‘pure’ genes - what tribe has full-blood Native Americans anymore. We are red, white, and black, and held together by our culture and our heritage. Unless you are of my heritage, how can you say what it means to be Native American?

kbp,

LOL, so what’s your point on the scriptures? Deists don’t believe in man-made religions. The fact that others believe in the scriptures and thereby have racist beliefs is supposed to make it alright? I don’t have a problem pointing out that they are wrong too.

You know what actions they have taken (not all, but certainly a goodly number) to violate the law. Bigamy, sexual assault of children, illegal marriages, etc.

I think that you know that I have been clear that those that have violated the law must face the consequences - that is not an indictment of all of the FLDS members, but it is also not burying my head in the sand and singing kumbala either.

LAnon,

You may want to read up on Deism before you ascribe values to me. The FLDS, as well as anyone else, can believe whatever they want. They cannot act on those beliefs that violate the law, unless they are prepared to face the consequences of their own choices.

Bob,

You are obviously an idiot. Your comments on Native Americans show no understanding of the issues involved, but are merely another way for you to denigrate someone that is of a different race.

TBM: Hey, Hoss, I don’t want to denigrate anyone. I want to be a Native American just like you. There’s no ednigration in that is there?

And, now that you’ve cleared up the fact that Native Americans aren’t a product of genes, but of culture and heritage, please tell me where I can begin to acquire that culture and heritage.

Maybe I can just move to the reservation with you. How many years will it take before you accept me as a Native American, TBM? What tribe did you way you belong to? If you don’t want to say, that’s okay. I’m sure I can acquire the culture and heritage just like you.

Say, did you also move to the reservation and become a Native American after a while? How long did it take you, brother? What were you before you became a Native American?

I havent even in included the most despicable lie on the part of CPS. When the children were seperated from their Mothers at the San Angelo Coliseum, CPS lied to children and said their Mothers would be right back and of course CPS knew this was not true.

“How about the most orthodox Jews? Are you happy with their beliefs that one can only be a Jew if his or her mother is a Jew? Isn’t that racism, TBM? Are you on Jewish sites attacking them too?”

This is false. Judaism accepts converts, although it can be a difficult process in order to weed out those who are not truly committed and Orthodox conversions are the strictest.

The “only if his/her mother is a Jew” thing to which you refer is the Jewish tradition of tracing descent matrilineally. One reason for this is that a child’s mother is always known, while the father couldn’t always be positively identified. The Jewish people suffered a long history of oppression, during which Jewish women were sometimes raped by their oppressors. Instead of casting out the victim and the child born of the rape, the Jewish community took them in by considering the child to be Jewish.

If you wish to make some sort of comparison between Judaism and FLDS, you could mention that the FLDS preaches the same kind of racism against black people that other groups have preached against Jewish people.

TBM: I’ve read there is a lot of drinking and drug use on Indian reservations along with many teen pregnancies, and many suicides of kids.

Shouldn’t you be getting your busy-body self to snooping around the reservations and calling in CPS to enforce the law and maybe take all those children away from what may be abusive parents?

It seems to me the FLDS people don’t have nearly as many problems as I read about on many reservations. So, if you’re a Native American, why don’t you take care of your own house instead of wasting all your your time trying to smear non-Native Americans.

I was going to give you the links to all the problems on the reservations, but you can google them yourself.

Bob,

I was born on the rez. You will never be able to ‘become’ a Native American. Sorry, that’s just the way it is. And you mention culture, etc. as an excuse for violating the laws - Native Americans have to follow the same laws as everyone else.

I won’t be responding to your racism any further.

Joey,

No, I’m not Cherokee, nor one of the Five Civilized Tribes. While you deplore the vote of the Cherokee tribe, do you understand the real issue? I doubt it.

The vote to limit tribal member to Cherokee by blood is a response that has been building for generations, since Congress decreed that a roll be completed that listed members of the tribe. Congress, rather than the tribe stated that the following would be on the Dawes Roll:

Cherokee by blood (i.e., those of the tribe, by descent)
Cherokee by marriage (i.e., a non-Cherokee that married into the tribe)
Minor children of enrolled members
Delaware by blood (by treaty, the Delaware tribe was ‘adopted’ into the Cherokee tribe - this was recently changed and the Delaware are becoming their own tribe again)
Freedmen (blacks living among the Cherokee, but not related to them by blood or marriage)

The last group was included by Congress, and had never been a part of the tribe until 1893 when the law was passed. All the Cherokees did was stand up and state that tribal members should be actual members of the tribe.

The vote you talk about does not affect black Cherokees that have Cherokee blood, who are still members of the tribe.

Finally, the vote you speak of also denied tribal membership to the Cherokee by Marriage individuals, all of whom were white.

TBM : After reading this blog I think I can see where your coming from. When someone in “authority” says your bad - your bad! If someone in “authority” says you lie - then you lie! If someone in “authority” thinks your doing wrong - then your doing wrong! And they have the whole world to prove it. I think I can see where your coming from! If someone in “authority” says (and I quote history) that the “Only good Indian is a dead Indian!” - then that must mean…..

My point is: Your people were driven-persecuted-slaughtered-enslaved-tortured-and killed because someone in authority didn’t like them or their ways of life or their beliefs or they way they lived. They said they were barbaric and abusive to their wives and children. They raised their children to be hunters and killers and their children were used as property. They were different then the white guys! Their customs were different their traditions were different! The white mans law said if you steal you’ll go to jail. If you kill there must be justice. But what was the law and custom of your people? It was an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. It was right in their eyes. Was this way of life bad? Was it wicked and evil? Did it deserve the killing of your people? No. They were different, that is true. But does different make you evil and bad? Because “authority” said your bad and even spread the stories of your so called evil and repeat them over and over and over and over for years and years and generations. Does that make them bad?

TBM of all people in this nation you should be the most enlightened about persecution when you see it. Just look at your own history. You should be the most compassionate and most concerned over the welfare of those whom “authority” says is bad.

TBM WROTE: “Bob,

I was born on the rez. You will never be able to ‘become’ a Native American. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.”

Awww, come on TBM, if it doesn’t take genes to be a Native American–as you have implied–then surely I can become one. I can put a feather in my hair. Will that make me a Native American? I can wear buckskins and beads. Will that do it?

It’s racism–as you apparently define the term–to exclude me. Is it the color of my skin that you don’t like, TBM? Kind of want your exclusive Native American club, right?

However, others can’t also have their own exclusive clubs or you’ll feel that you’re discriminated against.

But enough of the cat and mouse game, with you being the mouse, TBM. My guess is that you’re a government shill who didn’t just accidentely wander on to this site.

There’s a high probability that you’re here to try to spin things against the FLDS. You’ve left clues in your many posts, TBM. You’ve been seen. It’s time to go to your bosses and tell them that your undercover identity has been blown.

TBM—-I have a great, great Uncle who was 100% Cherokee. He married my great, great Aunt.

While the rest of my family on either side for generations back is Irish through and through, this great great Aunt was ahead of her time and a renegade–she not only married a non-Catholic, a non-Irish, and non-white person, she married herself an “Injun” and spoiled our blood lines (and my nose, thank you very much–because I have the damned most Native American looking nose you’d ever want to see….long, narrow, and has point in the end and a cleft in it). I definitely *don’t* look Irish, though if you knew my maiden name, you’d have no doubt my lineage based only on that.

However, I am left wondering–given my ancestors, am I one of you? Just wondering exactly where I fit in this scenario.

Best,
Jeny

Ummm, some food for thought. IF the FLDS kids were taken because (or partly because) of a religious belief (ie: poly marriage), their “Temple” searched, and so forth… I wonder what response would be if it was a case where a “Muslim’s” child was seized (on the same level, ie: 450 kids) for the same reason and a “Mosque” was searched. I don’t think that would happen, or at least a long thought process would occur first… Why?… my thought would be because the response from the Muslim community (worldwide), rather than a lawsuit (as the FLDS) will certainly do, would instead be in blood, and lots of it (let alone massive worker strikes and many other things at the same time)… CPS is getting off easy with the FLDS… I would invite them to learn their lesson with the Muslims…

Actually a similar comparison would be the Catholic Church sex abuse scandals of a few years’ back. One small town around San Antonio had a child-molesting priest, yet when one family finally did something about it, the rest of the town ostracized them, called them liars, vandalized their home, threatened them, etc. Shouldn’t CPS have come by with the tank to round up those children? But no, they were Catholic, & there are many Catholics in Texas, some with money, so it was okay for THOSE parents to support & protect a child-molesting priest & send their children to his church to be molested.

Here’s a link about 99% of Orange County California residents being pedophiles. http://inyourface.freedomblogging.com/2008/08/31/adventures-in-nude-miley-land/

Be sure to read the whole article to the bottom and be sure to click through to the DIGG entry on this and read the posts of readers who believed this nonsense and who responded with comments that sound identical to posts from readers of newspapers that ran many biased articles about the FLDS.

The gullibility of many people about such things is something to behold, but that’s not news to those who understand a little about human psychology and who have been following the persecution of the FLDS.

Mob hysteria seems to happen even when the mob is dispersed around the internet. Hmmmm. Time to turn the tables: “Pssssst. Didja hear that the CPS may really be a front for pedophile lesbians and serial abortionists? Pass it on.” LOL

The hypothetical situation you supplied is ludicrous. A non-Jewish man shows up with a baby he claims is Jewish and the mom (and all the accompanying records) are nowhere to be found? This isn’t a case for a rabbi; it’s a case for the courts. I would start dredging the nearest body of water for the missing mother.

Judaism is a religion that anyone can convert to, if they are dedicated enough. There are Ethiopian Jews, Chinese Jews, Persian Jews, Indian Jews. I don’t know where your “not mixing with others” comes into this at all. I don’t see what any of this has to do with FLDS hate speech.