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		<title>By: momo</title>
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		<dc:creator>momo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense to anyone in this blog, But i can relate to what &quot; Joey&quot; is saying! Whether or not you other bloggers respect what&#039;s being said by him. I&#039;m going through a crisis with my children due to the crooked and unlawful ways my case is being handled by cps, and those lying unconcerned , underqualified, money hungry kidnappers we all call &quot; family service workers&quot; yeah they work for families alright!!! They work against our families!!! I have more to say....But, it&#039;s really a waste of time when terrorist are government funded and do as they please! Can&#039;t believe i&#039;m in &quot;America&quot; at times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense to anyone in this blog, But i can relate to what &#8221; Joey&#8221; is saying! Whether or not you other bloggers respect what&#8217;s being said by him. I&#8217;m going through a crisis with my children due to the crooked and unlawful ways my case is being handled by cps, and those lying unconcerned , underqualified, money hungry kidnappers we all call &#8221; family service workers&#8221; yeah they work for families alright!!! They work against our families!!! I have more to say&#8230;.But, it&#8217;s really a waste of time when terrorist are government funded and do as they please! Can&#8217;t believe i&#8217;m in &#8220;America&#8221; at times!</p>
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		<title>By: anthony deloach</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony deloach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work dude, keep it up and keep on updating your site.</description>
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		<title>By: Victim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this is likened to the Guatemala child trafficking ring, using the  &quot;good name&quot; of Social Services as a front.... to steal children, to place them with people that can&#039;t have them, and &quot;bend the laws&quot; to obtain them.

The FBI needs to be alerted.  Legislature knows about it, it funds money into each state. They turn a blind eye, with a wink and a nod, to make up for the deficits. Don&#039;t know why everyone thinks they are helpless.  Everyone has Social Services cornered with every legal indictment and Constitutional infringement possible.  There&#039;s federal court, Grand jury, torte claims, (to include their &quot;significant other&quot;) and absolute zero immunity to any peace officer, social worker, attorney, or judge involved.
It&#039;s very simple.  And, retribution and damages are enormous, for irreparable damage, and all of the above face life in prison.  Just for the heck of it, do a background check on the social workers, the foster care, etc. it&#039;s free public knowledge. Your local court will give you access to computers and show you how.... then, do a search on the Judges and their spouses, and their special interest affiliations. Surprise surprise surprise.   This is the FBI&#039;s job.   DO NOT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE.  If they say they can&#039;t get involved... ask them to send you their denial in writing. Contact your attorney General, Assemblyman, Senators, and Governors.  Do the same with them. Historically, they will tell you it&#039;s not their job, but it is.  If they pass you off to an Ombudsman, give them the same grievance. Keep copies of everything.  Illegal acts are still illegal acts. No matter what title one wears.  PS, every person you apprise of your grievance becomes a party to the cause and accountable for their lack of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this is likened to the Guatemala child trafficking ring, using the  &#8220;good name&#8221; of Social Services as a front&#8230;. to steal children, to place them with people that can&#8217;t have them, and &#8220;bend the laws&#8221; to obtain them.</p>
<p>The FBI needs to be alerted.  Legislature knows about it, it funds money into each state. They turn a blind eye, with a wink and a nod, to make up for the deficits. Don&#8217;t know why everyone thinks they are helpless.  Everyone has Social Services cornered with every legal indictment and Constitutional infringement possible.  There&#8217;s federal court, Grand jury, torte claims, (to include their &#8220;significant other&#8221;) and absolute zero immunity to any peace officer, social worker, attorney, or judge involved.<br />
It&#8217;s very simple.  And, retribution and damages are enormous, for irreparable damage, and all of the above face life in prison.  Just for the heck of it, do a background check on the social workers, the foster care, etc. it&#8217;s free public knowledge. Your local court will give you access to computers and show you how&#8230;. then, do a search on the Judges and their spouses, and their special interest affiliations. Surprise surprise surprise.   This is the FBI&#8217;s job.   DO NOT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE.  If they say they can&#8217;t get involved&#8230; ask them to send you their denial in writing. Contact your attorney General, Assemblyman, Senators, and Governors.  Do the same with them. Historically, they will tell you it&#8217;s not their job, but it is.  If they pass you off to an Ombudsman, give them the same grievance. Keep copies of everything.  Illegal acts are still illegal acts. No matter what title one wears.  PS, every person you apprise of your grievance becomes a party to the cause and accountable for their lack of action.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See this is the kind of ignorance I am talking about.  No matter how much they fight for more money, they don&#039;t get it except for when the government raises the cost of living.  If you work in a nonprofit organization you are not by law allowed to receive bonuses.  For years now they have been so overwhelmed. That is part of the problem.  They can&#039;t deal with all the cases they have and there are so little foster homes now compared to even 10 years ago that there is simply just no where to put the kids if they do take them.  That is why they try not to take the children unless they have to.  I know a couple of families that I believe that the children should be removed from the home  because they are in danger but instead CPS works with them to make the situation tolerable for the children.

And the study you mentioned above opens a whole new topic.  There are many factors in there that he has not addressed.  One in paticular is the fact that the children are many times put on ADHD meds because they think it is a medical reason for the way they act.  Many kids are misdiagnosed.  NDD is one reason to explain how they are acting. (Nutritional Deficientcy Disorder) Another reason is their upbringing.  Did you know that children who take meds for ADHD or ADD are more likely to commit petty crimes, suffer from depression, and have drug or alcohol addictions?  Plus you can&#039;t say that they are similar situation because there was probably more in the children who are removed.  At the very least it shows the children that there is something wrong in the house when they are removed and they become angry at their parents or the parents put things in their heads to make them angry at CPS.  Just like drug dealers will teach their kids that police are bad.  Environment has alot to do with things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See this is the kind of ignorance I am talking about.  No matter how much they fight for more money, they don&#8217;t get it except for when the government raises the cost of living.  If you work in a nonprofit organization you are not by law allowed to receive bonuses.  For years now they have been so overwhelmed. That is part of the problem.  They can&#8217;t deal with all the cases they have and there are so little foster homes now compared to even 10 years ago that there is simply just no where to put the kids if they do take them.  That is why they try not to take the children unless they have to.  I know a couple of families that I believe that the children should be removed from the home  because they are in danger but instead CPS works with them to make the situation tolerable for the children.</p>
<p>And the study you mentioned above opens a whole new topic.  There are many factors in there that he has not addressed.  One in paticular is the fact that the children are many times put on ADHD meds because they think it is a medical reason for the way they act.  Many kids are misdiagnosed.  NDD is one reason to explain how they are acting. (Nutritional Deficientcy Disorder) Another reason is their upbringing.  Did you know that children who take meds for ADHD or ADD are more likely to commit petty crimes, suffer from depression, and have drug or alcohol addictions?  Plus you can&#8217;t say that they are similar situation because there was probably more in the children who are removed.  At the very least it shows the children that there is something wrong in the house when they are removed and they become angry at their parents or the parents put things in their heads to make them angry at CPS.  Just like drug dealers will teach their kids that police are bad.  Environment has alot to do with things.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government thrives on putting children in the system. That&#039;s how CPS bureaucrats can stand up in congress and demand more funding because &quot;look we can&#039;t deal with the workload...all these new kids in the system, etc.&quot;, and then go on to give themselves a raise. Meanwhile CPS workers and Rangers pat themselves on the back and congratulate themselves on their overtime pay and job security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government thrives on putting children in the system. That&#8217;s how CPS bureaucrats can stand up in congress and demand more funding because &#8220;look we can&#8217;t deal with the workload&#8230;all these new kids in the system, etc.&#8221;, and then go on to give themselves a raise. Meanwhile CPS workers and Rangers pat themselves on the back and congratulate themselves on their overtime pay and job security.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about the death rate, but here&#039;s a study that shows adverse effects and compares among similar homes:

&lt;i&gt;Joseph J. Doyle, an economist with the Sloan School of Management at M.I.T., found that children removed from their parents and taken into foster care, even for a relatively short period, were three times as likely to grow up to be juvenile offenders or have a teenage pregnancy than were children from similarly troubled homes who had been left with their parents.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/dxobpw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about the death rate, but here&#8217;s a study that shows adverse effects and compares among similar homes:</p>
<p><i>Joseph J. Doyle, an economist with the Sloan School of Management at M.I.T., found that children removed from their parents and taken into foster care, even for a relatively short period, were three times as likely to grow up to be juvenile offenders or have a teenage pregnancy than were children from similarly troubled homes who had been left with their parents.</i><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/dxobpw" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: D'Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>martie I agree with you it doesn&#039;t matter if you  gave birth to a child or not.  My mother is a good mom to both her adopted kids and her biological kid.

Seem like alot of entries are now gone. I wonder why

The bad birth homes are usually horrible deaths that is not always the case in foster care.  Some of the deaths are due to the homes they came from as well as things that some bad foster homes do.

The more children they have in the system the more money it costs the government so it is not making them richer to take the children from their homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>martie I agree with you it doesn&#8217;t matter if you  gave birth to a child or not.  My mother is a good mom to both her adopted kids and her biological kid.</p>
<p>Seem like alot of entries are now gone. I wonder why</p>
<p>The bad birth homes are usually horrible deaths that is not always the case in foster care.  Some of the deaths are due to the homes they came from as well as things that some bad foster homes do.</p>
<p>The more children they have in the system the more money it costs the government so it is not making them richer to take the children from their homes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This particular &quot;4 times&quot; statistics doesn&#039;t mean a thing. 
It compares foster children to normal (average) children. 

The proper comparison is between foster children and children with SIMILARLY BAD BIRTH HOME SITUATION who were not removed. 

Joey and I had an exchange over this matter, on this blog. Wish I could find that thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular &#8220;4 times&#8221; statistics doesn&#8217;t mean a thing.<br />
It compares foster children to normal (average) children. </p>
<p>The proper comparison is between foster children and children with SIMILARLY BAD BIRTH HOME SITUATION who were not removed. </p>
<p>Joey and I had an exchange over this matter, on this blog. Wish I could find that thread.</p>
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		<title>By: martie</title>
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		<dc:creator>martie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, government don&#039;t care unless it makes them more popular or richer.  There are exceptions in all cases. We should ban the words FOSTER and BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. If you are a good parent depends on what you do, NOT on whether you adopt or give birth. All the statistics don&#039;t mean a thing on an individual basis, they can&#039;t prove you&#039;re right or wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, government don&#8217;t care unless it makes them more popular or richer.  There are exceptions in all cases. We should ban the words FOSTER and BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. If you are a good parent depends on what you do, NOT on whether you adopt or give birth. All the statistics don&#8217;t mean a thing on an individual basis, they can&#8217;t prove you&#8217;re right or wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: D'Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joey, I have read all entries and I don&#039;t see anything about a woman saying that all children die with the bio parents.  Where is that and who are you talking about?

They took those children because 1st off the parents were breaking the law by having multiple wives and all the underage married people.  2nd they did freak and went to far in this instance but unfortunatly they have to keep public relations on good standings.  The public at first wanted those children to be pulled so that definatly had something to do with it.

Munchausen by proxy like shaken baby syndrome does not exist.

Are you serious.  Shaken baby syndrome doesn&#039;t exist.  People shake their babies to the point that they at the very least cause bruises on their brains from the brain slaming into the skull. At the very most snap their neck.  This is medically proven.  And I have seen it first hand,  not only with the case I mentioned above but one of my clients actually suffer from it.  She needs attention so badly that she is constantly making her kids sick so that everyone feels sorry for her and the children.  It happens

Kurt-  I agree with you.  No matter what profession there will always be really good ones,  ones just there, and ones that are bad.  

I would like to know exactly where that statistic came from that stated that children are 4 times more likely to die in foster care than in biological homes.  If this is true then don&#039;t you think the government would step in and do something about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joey, I have read all entries and I don&#8217;t see anything about a woman saying that all children die with the bio parents.  Where is that and who are you talking about?</p>
<p>They took those children because 1st off the parents were breaking the law by having multiple wives and all the underage married people.  2nd they did freak and went to far in this instance but unfortunatly they have to keep public relations on good standings.  The public at first wanted those children to be pulled so that definatly had something to do with it.</p>
<p>Munchausen by proxy like shaken baby syndrome does not exist.</p>
<p>Are you serious.  Shaken baby syndrome doesn&#8217;t exist.  People shake their babies to the point that they at the very least cause bruises on their brains from the brain slaming into the skull. At the very most snap their neck.  This is medically proven.  And I have seen it first hand,  not only with the case I mentioned above but one of my clients actually suffer from it.  She needs attention so badly that she is constantly making her kids sick so that everyone feels sorry for her and the children.  It happens</p>
<p>Kurt-  I agree with you.  No matter what profession there will always be really good ones,  ones just there, and ones that are bad.  </p>
<p>I would like to know exactly where that statistic came from that stated that children are 4 times more likely to die in foster care than in biological homes.  If this is true then don&#8217;t you think the government would step in and do something about that?</p>
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